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The French Get a Bad Rap

By Karen Fawcett

There a times when I get tired of defending the French.  People who travel extensively overseas expect to encounter rude people no matter where they go.  Call it a lack of language skills, cultural differences, or not knowing how to behave in a new (and strange) environment.

In addition, any group of tourists who travel en masse tends to feel superior. Have you noticed how butchers, bakers and Indian chiefs behave at professional conventions?  It’s as if they rule the world and certainly the area within a two-block radius of where they’re meeting.

The French have just been dubbed the world’s worst tourists. My guess is they’ve inherited this reputation because they tend to travel frequently and often take package tours. With 5+ weeks of vacation annually, they get up and go because they have the time in addition to enormous curiosity.

What they don’t know and should is that tipping isn’t included on U.S. restaurant bills.  Most waiters hate waiting on Europeans because they suspect they’re going to be stiffed. Some restaurateurs note at the bottom of their menus that tips aren’t included and many automatically add a tip for groups of six people or more.

In these economically distressed times, tourism in France is down by 17% since January, compared with the same time period in 2008. The French government wants people back and is going all out to try to seduce them to return.

Airfares are at an all-time low (if you’re flexible and adept at surfing the Internet). There are so many hotel and package deals to be had that if you’re interested in visiting France that this is the ideal time—if you have the time, the money, and the patience to figure it out.

The government has lowered the value added tax to 5.5% from 19.6%. This will make a dramatic difference on the bottom line when it comes to dining out.

In a survey conductor by TripAdvisor.com in May, the findings were that France is the most overrated country in Europe and the second-most expensive. In addition, the French were perceived as being unfriendly.

Trust me, the French aren’t. They’re simply more reserved and you’re not going to be their immediate best friend just because you happened to come to their country. They are more aloof and distant than Americans and don’t think they need to jump when you walk into their store. It didn’t take me long to learn that one says, “Bonjour” and “s’il vous plait” before barking orders or handling the merchandise.

To counter the slump and boost revenues, French tourism officials have set up stands manned by teams of “smile ambassadors” to welcome tourists at some of Paris’s most popular spots. Hundreds of roller-skaters gathered at Place Vendome and formed a giant smile.

Two holiday rental groups, Pierre et Vacances and FranceLoc are even offering weather insurance if there are four days of rain during a one-week rental period. That might be an excellent investment since France’s weather can be uncertain especially in these days of climate change.

Herv Kayser, who conceived the insurance, idea told Le Figaro that in a trial run last year, 10% of the people who bought the insurance policy received rebates because of rain.

But back to the smiles.  This isn’t the first program of its sort. Tourism officials launched a program approximately fifteen years ago that encouraged people working in the hospitality industry to smile and learn English. Perhaps the downturn in business has caused people to be grumpy and they needed to be reminded.

Paul Roll, Director of Tourism, said, “If we want tourism, which has generated more than two million jobs, to remain a leading sector in the French economy, everyone has to make visitors feel welcome including professionals, elected representatives as well the French public.”

As much as I fear asking this question, have you found the French rude? Any more than if you were a foreigner going to New York or another U.S. city where people didn’t speak your language and they didn’t speak English?   

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Karen@BonjourParis.com

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  • Lenny Popkin

    Parisian Lover 4 Comments
    Angry
    I can't believe this stuff I'm reading about the "rude" French.
    One can't make generalizations about a people. But were I to do so, I would say that the French are among the most emotional and sweet people I have ever met.

    Sometimes I think this French bashing is a hangover from when Bush started the drums beating for his phony war in Iraq and France wouldn't go along with it.

  • Oleg T

    Parisian Lover 2 Comments
    Sad I thought French are even more friendly than Swedish people. That's really sad, when you love any country, but people dislike you. But I hope it only depends on how cultural you are, instead how rude French are.
  • Rick Banzhoff

    Parisian Lover 1 Comments
    I LOVE FRANCE ... ANYTIME!!! As a former flight attendant, I've been to France more times than I can count. I've always found the French to be somewhat reserved but, nevertheless, friendly. I can remember many acts of kindness when I became lost driving the French countryside while on holiday, "regular" people who went out of their way to help me. I also remember the wonderful French food and the delightful flair used in serving it. Are the French unfriendly? No more so than any other country that I've visited. That being said, if you REALLY want to experience "unfriendly", I offer you to come to my home town, Lancaster, Pennsylvania: these people are off the latch!!
  • Jacquelyn Goudeau

    Parisian Lover 3 Comments
    Loving where you go I have been to Paris 5 times this decade. It took me many decades physically set foot on the soil of Paris, but once there, I knew I had done my home/heart work.

    Perhaps loving yourself and where you are going makes more difference than we think? I know it has with me. What are you going looking for? Do you want only the best experiences?

    Karen and all the commentors have given great input, so let me just add, that every country/peoples on earth have their pros and cons...and I am learning that with Paris, I only want to go looking for MY Good...and that is what I am finding.
    Merci, jusque-la next time !
  • Lenny Popkin

    Parisian Lover 4 Comments
    The VAT I love France and I love living here.
    I also love the people.

    One thing I have noticed, however, has to do with the reduction of the value added tax to 5.5% from 19.6%. This was supposed to make a difference in the cost of dining out. My experiences so far do not bear this out.

    The prices I have paid in every restaurant I have been to have been identical to the ones I paid before the reduction. The restaurants simply have raised the price of the food so that when the 5.5% is added, it comes out the same and the restaurant pockets the difference. This was even true for Pizza delivery. I think restauranteurs work hard, and I have no problem with them getting a little extra dough, but if this reduction was supposed to encourage people to go out to eat more often, I don't think it's going to happen.

  • Karen Fawcett

    Parisian Lover 222 Comments
    Yet another post - from Kathleen

    Bonjour Karen,


    I am pleased to respond to your request to post about my opinion of
    the French people. Like you, I am very tired of having to tell
    people that the French neither unfriendly nor rude. I have been to
    France just twice, in 2004 and 2007 and am thrilled to return this
    fall. We have stayed in two different apartments in Paris, one in
    Provence, and stayed in Puligny and Nice for very short times. We
    have encountered people on the Metro who volunteered to help us when
    they thought we were confused about a map or a stop. Shop owners/
    employees in bakeries, etc. have been polite. No one I've traveled
    with has been a French speaker (or even close) but we do try to
    communicate what we can with our limited vocabulary. We've had no
    problems.

    I wanted to post this and registered with a log-in, but didn't know
    where to post, so I just sent this e-mail. I expect you will get
    many like mine.

    Merci,

    Kathleen
  • awoodyar

    Parisian Lover 5 Comments
    Surprising Just back from 3 weeks in Italy, ending with a day in Nice, where the waiters, hoteliers, people on the streets were a pleasure to be with. We have never been disappointed with France, and don't expect to ever be!
  • Roy Bailey

    Parisian Lover 1 Comments
    Always a pleasure! I have been to Paris many, many times - it's my favorite city, and have been lucky to have traveled a few times to southern France and I can honestly say that I have never had an experience with French citizens being rude. Maybe it's because of my own personality, being undemanding and somewhat reticent, but I've found the people of France to be circumspect rather then rude, concerned rather then indifferent, and receptive rather then aloof. I've also found that if you at least try to apply yourself to a given situation, whether it be in a store, a restaurant, or a museum, French citizens are always willing to offer assistance.
    France as overrated - please! France is one of the richest countries in respect to history, art, culture, and literature, and if you are lucky enough to visit areas other then Paris and it's vicinage, you will find a country of extreme and beautiful terrain. Where the people are proud of their heritage and willing to share their knowledge with others. I can't wait to go back to France!
    Here in the U.S.A., I work in a world award winning public library, www.slcpl.org, and we receive a lot of international visitors. Again, I can honestly say that they have all been humble, courteous, and gracious for any assistance and information that we can provide. And when questioned about their visit, all have been eager to share stories from their travel experiences. I can't contribute to the issue of tipping but only to say that I think it's cultural and I wouldn't expect any more or any less from international travelers because of that. Yes, maybe they should be prepared and know what to expect when traveling, but if they don't, overlook the faux pas and try to make their visit memorable so that they have only good things to say about the citizens of the U.S.A.
  • Mary Hillebrenner

    Parisian Lover 1 Comments
    OK, Paris is Expensive...but so is New York, San Francisco and many other major cities around the world.

    My friend an I have been going to Paris for the last seven summers. Although this year, her husband retired and would let us go together, so another friend quickly assumed her place!

    Paris, in parts is terrifically expensive, but you can also do it economically as well. We used to stay at the Hotel Ambassador on Blvd. Hausmann. Last year we explored the idea of renting an apt...slightly more, no room service, free soaps, shampoos etc., but one (esp. the ladies) bring their own anyway. We did have a beautiful kitchen, large living/dining area and our own rooms. There was a washer/dryer and was conveniently located to food markets, so we really enjoyed making our meals in. A big savings! Not to mention making our own cosmos.

    The only drawback was it was near Pigalle (not the best neighborhood), so this year I rented an apt. on Rue St. Lazare right behind Printemps!

    Of all the years I have been to Paris, my first was in 1971, second in 2000, with my daughter and then every summer since 2002 I have had only one person rude to me. Here's what happened:

    It was the year I went with my daughter. We went into a small touristy shop to buy postcards. I know the reputation for "American arrogance," so I politely said, "Excuse me, do you speak English?" The young woman--my guess 20ish replied, "Of course I speak English, what do you think I am an idiot!"

    My pop-up bubble said, "Ah, yes because only an idiot would be so unkind and rude." I, however, being completely caught off-guard just asked her my question and tried to slither out of the store...hurt and embarrassed.

    Since then, they have been nothing but polite. I love the culture, the softer pace of life. The sights, the smells. This will be my last year for a while, and I know I shall grive for my beloved Paris and her surrounding areas.
  • Carolyn Reynolds

    Parisian Lover 4 Comments
    C Reynolds The only rude people I ever encountered in Paris were other Americans yelling about their hotel suites. Parisians are busy like New Yorkers and they are not looking for international friendships on the streets. However if you are so lucky to be invited to a French home for dinner, you will have a friend for life if you hit it off. I used to spend a week a month in Paris for a year for business and I was always helped, welcomed, and included.
  • William Kover

    Parisian Lover 6 Comments
    People watchung and more! While I was climbing the tower at Notre Dame, my wife, Eleanor, went inside to people watch. She was soon joined by a Parisian named Genevieve, who spoke just a little English. By the time I returned, Eleanor had received much advice on eating healthy foods. Genevieve starting giving Eleanor food from her bag...two almonds, a banana, French bread,a small chocolate as well as a St. Christopher emblem. All this resulted because Eleanor was pleasant and smiled at her. Eleanor gave her two homemade postcards.
  • Janice Siebert

    Parisian Lover 2 Comments
    . . . A Failure to Communicate France is my favorite country to visit and Paris is my favorite city of all time! And I have been happy to find that it isn't just like home. Every trip has been a lovely cultural, gastronomic, fun experience.

    In discussions with friends and acquaintances who "just don't like the arrogant French," it always appears that they were expecting things to work exactly the same in France as they do in the US. They have done absolutely no research into customs, social mores, the vastly interesting array of food available, or anything else, except the THINGS and PLACES they want to see.

    It appears that French travelers are just as bad as we are as a group. Not tipping IS pretty inexcusable. Travelers to the US really need to learn to tip. On the other hand, sitting and talking for hours over dinner is much more civilized than eating and running. I'm all for accommodating that tradition for foreign travelers.

    So, it all comes down to a lack of understanding of your destination. Here's hoping that the more we travel, the closer we come to being travelers, instead of tourists.
  • Sandra Concannon

    Parisian Lover 1 Comments
    Sandy from Boston Have been to France too many times to remember. Love it there. People are lots of fun, friendly and interesting!!! I have found almost all to go out of their way to be helpful in Paris, the south, the west, everywhere!!! We travel by bus, car and train all over the country and even have a few French friends. Utterly charming!!!

    However, we have a beach house on Cape Cod and eat out a lot in the summer. The French are horrendous tippers!!! At the better restaurants (some owned by friends of ours - it's a real problem. They stay too long (as you know in France the table is yours for the night) and do not tip at all!!! So, the server is doubly out of luck - no tip - no turnover. We always ask in a foreign country if tip is included (always included in France). Our French visitors need to do the same.

    That said, the survey needs clarification. Are they frequent travelers, on their own or on "tours"? I have seen unreal bad manners on visiting Americans in Paris. I've actually spoken to a few whose behavior I couldn't believe and wouldn't tolerate at home in my very tourist oriented city. No wonder people are rude to them.

    It's all right with me if they stay home. It means less crowds and lines. I'm happy!
  • Bonnie Weissman

    Parisian Lover 6 Comments
    Things have changed on both sides I think both Americans and French people have traveled more, and have simply been exposed more to each other's cultures via the Internet, TV, and other media. I speak very little French, but from my readings know enough to greet people formally in French first, and add a little more French to my vocabulary each time I travel to France. I find that with most vendors and other French folks we often have "Franclish" conversations, but have fun and learn a lot. I also noticed that most French people under 40 speak some English, and that many have been to the US, UK, or Australia. Finally, I have also found that the French living in areas other than Paris to be friendlier than Parisians. Maybe the Parisians have to deal with rude tourists too often or something. I met almost uniformly VERY nice folks in Provence; maybe it's all that sunshine, great food and scenery, and the sea breezes carrying the scents of flowers grown to make perfume--- who knows? In summary, I recommend anyone going to another country, France or otherwise, to spend just a bit of time perusing a guidebook (most explain the culture and manners somewhat) prior to travel to avoid most faux pas. Secondly, as a minimum, learn at least a few phrases and simple courtesies. Go beyond, even if only for a day trip, to an outlying area away from the larger cities to get a taste of country or village life. Most people of good will anywhere will appreciate your efforts and help you when there's any difficulty or misunderstanding. If more people did these things with a good attitude, we could all enjoy each other a lot more.
  • DavidJ J

    Parisian Lover 4 Comments
    Why? "The government has lowered the value added tax to 5.5% from 19.6%."
    How depressing. I'm sure that The Female won't agree to let us go anywhere for at least a year - all those 14.1-percents going to waste.

    "France is the most overrated country in Europe"
    As a tourist destination, France is underrated. Every time we go there, we see at least three artworks worth seeing in real life, eat one or two meals better than I can cook myself, and have at two strange experiences. In other words, the trip is worth much more than we're paying for it.

    "the French were perceived as being unfriendly."
    I find the French to be very friendly. It probably depends where you're coming from, among other things. Also, we very obviously belong to a sect of ultra-Orthodox Jews, and the French have a HORRIBLE reputation for anti-Semitism. I didn't find it. I noticed no more anti-Semitism than in many other countries, and where it exists, many Frenchmen are very ashamed of it.

    "Trust me, the French aren’t."
    Why in Heaven's name should we trust you? You obviously have an economic interest in encouraging tourism to France, at least by English-speakers, and you're probably a francophile, in which case you've got an emotional interest in doing so as well.

    "They’re simply more reserved and you’re not going to be their immediate best friend just because you happened to come to their country. They are more aloof and distant than Americans and don’t think they need to jump when you walk into their store."
    As with everything, there's still a difference between people who have excuses, and people who don't need them.

    "But back to the smiles. This isn’t the first program of its sort. Tourism officials launched a program approximately fifteen years ago that encouraged people working in the hospitality industry to smile and learn English."
    The French had one of these when I was in high school, too, about 40-something years ago. With "smile-checks" and prizes.

    "But there’s a condition. Expats who are living in France are precluded from posting about their dealings with the French bureaucracy. Some things should remain private."
    As ***** said, "Where some speech is forbidden, no speech can be trusted."
  • William Kover

    Parisian Lover 6 Comments
    International friends My wife and I spent a month in Paris (April-May) in 2008. We had an apartment near rue Montorgueil. Naturally we shopped there every day. We became familiar with the salespeople in many of the shops. We made an effort to try and speak French. They appreciated that. Each day we would try and add another French phrase when speaking to the locals. One of the fruit merchants would hand pick strawberries for us. We gave him a red rose in appreciation. This simple gesture made a big impression. Another clerk at Stohrer's sold us croissants every day. Before we left we exchanged email addresses. She knows a little English, and we know a little French. We learned the phrases "Bonne journee Aurevoir" (Have a good day Goodbye) and "Bonne soiree Aurevoir" have a good evening Goodbye). Many of the locals were pleasantly surprised when we said that to them. It brought smiles to their faces. If you make an effort to be friendly and try to speak French, you may be rewarded with international friends.
  • M Usher

    Parisian Lover 1 Comments
    I disagree While I have encountered some rudeness, it is not more than in any other country I have visited. I have also met some very friendly people, especially sitting in cafes and restaurants. With tables being so close occasionally conversations start. These conversations usually end up with me receiving information about some out of the way or little known museum, park, shop, etc. which makes my trip that much more special.

    I read about that survey on TripAdvisor and I think they are way off. One of the countries ranked very high is, in my opinion, very rude and I dislike dealing with tourists from that particular country. Most of the time when I meet French tourists they are very polite. Of, course, I love France and wish I lived there so perhaps I view everything related to France with rose colored glasses.

  • lwollin

    Parisian Lover 9 Comments
    Bad Rap I have had three bad experiences in France with rudeness in 45 years of travelling to Paris and other parts of France. One of them was in a tourist office, of all things, in Chalon Sur Saone -- in 1983! I've experienced more rudeness in a month in my home town, New York. People are tolerant of my lousy French, for instance. But I have always said hello and thanks in shops wherever I go, so if good manners are all that are required of tourists, people would probably do well to learn a few elementary cultural "differences" and practice them. And French people are more reserved than some Americans, but once a French person is a friend, she's a friend for life, I have found.
    I suspect that waiters, etc. around prime tourist venues like the Eiffel Tower might be fed up after a while by the same questions, so may be more inclined to be rude.
    As for France being "overrated" -- nonsense!! If a tourist sticks to the same five places and doesn't venture out to find the many treasures of the country, I guess some might find it "overrated". I've been lucky enough to see many parts of France with intelligent guides, either friends or Elderhostel leaders, and am always finding something new and wonderful there.
    People who answer Tripadvisor questionnaires probably take short trips, stay with other tourists, etc. The people I know try to find new areas, local foods and wines, local customs and interests. If you stay at the bottom of the Eiffel Tower, you deserve what you get.

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